@MerryMo Agreed. I have a white belt or two and a shelf full of books on the topic, so I can’t really offer much insight into her ‘style’ except to point out that a punch fired off with the same-side leg extended back like that not only reduces the range of her punch but decreases the power behind it. It’s possible that this is an homage to certain action-movie techniques (I think Brad Pitt used this combination when portraying Achilles) but even then I suspect it served to enhance the visual effect of the strikes while enhancing the safety of the stunt-fighters…
@Mole204: Oh boy, let’s count out the ways your response was utterly repulsive, shall we?
1. Downplaying sexual assault because he hadn’t touched her yet. I don’t care what his intentions are, in that situation, Jocelyn is perfectly justified in breaking every bone in his hand.
2. What the fuck is your fucking deal with fucking profanity? And that’s not even the worst of it, you’ve said Jocelyn’s a bad person because she doesn’t respect her father. When the man has never, in any continuity, demonstrated any reason to respect him, ever.
3. You continue to insist that Jocelyn needs to be “put in her place”, and the fact that you also think Vince is a terrible character for some reason tells me that it’s more than just the profanity.
4. You’ve never said ANYTHING nice, ever, even here your compliments are extremely backhanded.
Weary sigh. Drama in the comments directed at me, over nothing. I should say something before they get out of hand.
“He literally assaulted her! She punched in self defense!”
1- Not even close. 2- That’s a bra strap, she’s allowed a right hook. But Nate wasn’t that handsy yet.
“You know, I’m getting really tired of you saying Jos is no better than anyone she brushes up against.”
You mean you don’t want it pointed out that Jos is a normal high-school character, and doesn’t deserve her bizarrely one-sided special treatment. OK, to me, she could have gotten away with murder _once_, but that Kevin is gone now.
“If someone were to pull a gun on her, would you still * on her for defending herself?”
You want a combat situation, you don’t complain when you get a combat situation. This was not an example of her defending herself.
“If you don’t have ANYTHING nice to say, shut the hell up.”
If and when I have anything nice to say it’s obviously ignored by a Jocelyn-centered fan squad. My only crime is accidentally not agreeing with a few people.
JB’s tried to clean up the comic, at least a little. His art is consistently good. In certain parts his writing is idiotic, but Kevin, Vance, and Jocelyn are Writer’s Favorites. Nathan and Steve adds an opposing, though slightly cartoonish opposite viewpoint to Jocelyn’s Loony-Tunes existence. I don’t think it too much to question why JB can’t come up with something better than swearing. Every swear word is a failed chance for good writing. It’s not sass, or snark, or rebellious, or counter-culture. It’s a chance for a good line, thrown away. Awaiting the day when Jocelyn uses an Unexplained Chainsaw to cut through an entire school classroom wall of cinderblock in about a second, and everyone shrugs and goes back to reading because it’s Jocelyn.
You guys, creator’s pets have existed ever since the ducking neanderthals started gathering around bonfires, telling epic hunting-gathering sagas. Jocelyn is undoubtedly an acquired taste. I’m personally neutral towards her cuz she doesn’t show up all that often and when she does she’s usually accompanied by a much better character, my lad Steve, who is such a great foil to her slurp-shit-and die attitude with his cooler, mellower, more laid-back personality. I guess, regarding all this karma dodging, mary-sueing hoopla, we just gotta learn to accept the bad (Jocelyn) with the good (Steve).
Tl;dr: Jocelyn kinda sucks but we Steve stans gotta grin and bear it for our Lord & Savior, Jocehaters can seethe and cope.
Yeah not gonna agree that “tHeY’rE the sAMe” but I do get the part about no consequences. Jocelyn is violent and vulgar at every turn and expects everyone to not just treat her decently but treat her with reverence. I’d love to see this explored deeply, like how it potentially stems from how abusing and destructive her home life, previous romantic partner, etc. has made her like that and have her develop and improve as a person, but I think that’s never going to happen. If it were any non-main cast character doing this, they would have an emotional explosion and be sent to prison talking to themselves in the next strip. With the main cast, any issues, mistakes, or line-crossing is excused with a joke and moved on from immediately. Jocelyn isn’t a badass bitch who doesn’t put up with shit, she’s an abusive person who uses intimidation and violence to get what she wants when met with even the tiniest adversity.
@Mole204: I believe what everyone is trying – very calmly and politely – to say is…
IT’S A @#$%IN’ COMIC STRIP!! Do you over-analyze Linus’ belief in the Great Pumpkin, too?! Well, just so you know, the Great Pumpkin is REAL and, if you don’t stop with calling one of our fave protagonists here a b*tch, the Great Pumpkin will FEAST ON YOUR @#$%IN’ BLOOD!
@Mole204: Everything Jocelyn has done in this scenario has been an appropriate reaction to what Nathan did first. She didn’t start swearing until he mentioned “praying the gay” out of her. She warned him to back off, and he ignored her. She punched him after he attempted to touch her. So HOW, exactly, is SHE the villain here?
I agree with everyone else: your constant negativity is really getting old. If you hate this comic and these characters so much, why are you even still reading?!
@Mole204 Dude, who ASKED you? You’re always coming here and ruining everyone’s enjoyment of reading the comic, spouting some unnecessary hate towards a fictional character who, mind you, was totally in her right to deck the ever-loving piss out of that little twerp for touching her after she said not to. You need to check your priorities or something, because this shtick of yours is tiresome. Either say something nice, or just get the fuck off the site and don’t come back. You won’t be missed.
@Mole204 I think just about everyone who checks this comic strip every morning has had enough of you. Jocelyn here has done what she’s supposed to do, defend herself. YOU are starting to sound like the old Kevin, and quite frankly, we don’t need you here deriding, and chastising JB, okay? If you don’t have ANYTHING nice to say, shut the hell up. You’ve done nothing but heckle this comic for, if my memory serves me correctly, the past three to four years.
I mean, dude was asking for a pounding from the very moment he attempted to engage in a conversation with Jocelyn of all people. Given how low Nathan must rank on the high school food chain he should really try and take his proselytizing to someone less likely AND eager to wipe the linoleum spick and span with that moptop of his.
@Mole204: You know, I’m getting really tired of you saying Jos is no better than anyone she brushes up against. Especially when you’re going to use it to equate self-defense with sexual assault. If someone were to pull a gun on her, would you still shit on her for defending herself?
Well that escalated quickly. And Jos will continue to never get any consequences for her actions.
They’re the same level of jerks, just on different good/evil sides. They were never going to get along, but I can’t disagree with Nathan in the first panel. Second panel, he shouldn’t have touched the human bear trap, but I find myself agreeing with his “Could you just _fix_ this?” intent?
On a slightly halloween note, at least Jos doesn’t have any piercings in her hand, but cyberpunk hadn’t advanced beyond the paperback and anime shelves back then.
Okay, this is based on the sexual harassment case regarding perpetrator Clarence Thomas harassing Anita Hill, huh? Nathan deserved that punch to the face, but I have a bad feeling Jocelyn is going to be in deep shit considering this time period is at least two decades and a half before the Me Too movement.
@MerryMo Agreed. I have a white belt or two and a shelf full of books on the topic, so I can’t really offer much insight into her ‘style’ except to point out that a punch fired off with the same-side leg extended back like that not only reduces the range of her punch but decreases the power behind it. It’s possible that this is an homage to certain action-movie techniques (I think Brad Pitt used this combination when portraying Achilles) but even then I suspect it served to enhance the visual effect of the strikes while enhancing the safety of the stunt-fighters…
@Mole204: Oh boy, let’s count out the ways your response was utterly repulsive, shall we?
1. Downplaying sexual assault because he hadn’t touched her yet. I don’t care what his intentions are, in that situation, Jocelyn is perfectly justified in breaking every bone in his hand.
2. What the fuck is your fucking deal with fucking profanity? And that’s not even the worst of it, you’ve said Jocelyn’s a bad person because she doesn’t respect her father. When the man has never, in any continuity, demonstrated any reason to respect him, ever.
3. You continue to insist that Jocelyn needs to be “put in her place”, and the fact that you also think Vince is a terrible character for some reason tells me that it’s more than just the profanity.
4. You’ve never said ANYTHING nice, ever, even here your compliments are extremely backhanded.
In conclusion, thank you, fuck you, bye
Weary sigh. Drama in the comments directed at me, over nothing. I should say something before they get out of hand.
“He literally assaulted her! She punched in self defense!”
1- Not even close. 2- That’s a bra strap, she’s allowed a right hook. But Nate wasn’t that handsy yet.
“You know, I’m getting really tired of you saying Jos is no better than anyone she brushes up against.”
You mean you don’t want it pointed out that Jos is a normal high-school character, and doesn’t deserve her bizarrely one-sided special treatment. OK, to me, she could have gotten away with murder _once_, but that Kevin is gone now.
“If someone were to pull a gun on her, would you still * on her for defending herself?”
You want a combat situation, you don’t complain when you get a combat situation. This was not an example of her defending herself.
“If you don’t have ANYTHING nice to say, shut the hell up.”
If and when I have anything nice to say it’s obviously ignored by a Jocelyn-centered fan squad. My only crime is accidentally not agreeing with a few people.
JB’s tried to clean up the comic, at least a little. His art is consistently good. In certain parts his writing is idiotic, but Kevin, Vance, and Jocelyn are Writer’s Favorites. Nathan and Steve adds an opposing, though slightly cartoonish opposite viewpoint to Jocelyn’s Loony-Tunes existence. I don’t think it too much to question why JB can’t come up with something better than swearing. Every swear word is a failed chance for good writing. It’s not sass, or snark, or rebellious, or counter-culture. It’s a chance for a good line, thrown away. Awaiting the day when Jocelyn uses an Unexplained Chainsaw to cut through an entire school classroom wall of cinderblock in about a second, and everyone shrugs and goes back to reading because it’s Jocelyn.
Bonus points if she knocked him into the “Religion” section.
You guys, creator’s pets have existed ever since the ducking neanderthals started gathering around bonfires, telling epic hunting-gathering sagas. Jocelyn is undoubtedly an acquired taste. I’m personally neutral towards her cuz she doesn’t show up all that often and when she does she’s usually accompanied by a much better character, my lad Steve, who is such a great foil to her slurp-shit-and die attitude with his cooler, mellower, more laid-back personality. I guess, regarding all this karma dodging, mary-sueing hoopla, we just gotta learn to accept the bad (Jocelyn) with the good (Steve).
Tl;dr: Jocelyn kinda sucks but we Steve stans gotta grin and bear it for our Lord & Savior, Jocehaters can seethe and cope.
Yeah not gonna agree that “tHeY’rE the sAMe” but I do get the part about no consequences. Jocelyn is violent and vulgar at every turn and expects everyone to not just treat her decently but treat her with reverence. I’d love to see this explored deeply, like how it potentially stems from how abusing and destructive her home life, previous romantic partner, etc. has made her like that and have her develop and improve as a person, but I think that’s never going to happen. If it were any non-main cast character doing this, they would have an emotional explosion and be sent to prison talking to themselves in the next strip. With the main cast, any issues, mistakes, or line-crossing is excused with a joke and moved on from immediately. Jocelyn isn’t a badass bitch who doesn’t put up with shit, she’s an abusive person who uses intimidation and violence to get what she wants when met with even the tiniest adversity.
@Mole204: I believe what everyone is trying – very calmly and politely – to say is…
IT’S A @#$%IN’ COMIC STRIP!! Do you over-analyze Linus’ belief in the Great Pumpkin, too?! Well, just so you know, the Great Pumpkin is REAL and, if you don’t stop with calling one of our fave protagonists here a b*tch, the Great Pumpkin will FEAST ON YOUR @#$%IN’ BLOOD!
Seriously, dude, get a grip.
@Mole204: Everything Jocelyn has done in this scenario has been an appropriate reaction to what Nathan did first. She didn’t start swearing until he mentioned “praying the gay” out of her. She warned him to back off, and he ignored her. She punched him after he attempted to touch her. So HOW, exactly, is SHE the villain here?
I agree with everyone else: your constant negativity is really getting old. If you hate this comic and these characters so much, why are you even still reading?!
I liked how Jocelyn didn’t punch him in the original story line, as if she decided he wasn’t even worth it.
Of course, in the original, he also never tried to touch her breasts and his biggest crime was just being obnoxious and sanctimonious.
@Mole204 Dude, who ASKED you? You’re always coming here and ruining everyone’s enjoyment of reading the comic, spouting some unnecessary hate towards a fictional character who, mind you, was totally in her right to deck the ever-loving piss out of that little twerp for touching her after she said not to. You need to check your priorities or something, because this shtick of yours is tiresome. Either say something nice, or just get the fuck off the site and don’t come back. You won’t be missed.
@Mole204 I think just about everyone who checks this comic strip every morning has had enough of you. Jocelyn here has done what she’s supposed to do, defend herself. YOU are starting to sound like the old Kevin, and quite frankly, we don’t need you here deriding, and chastising JB, okay? If you don’t have ANYTHING nice to say, shut the hell up. You’ve done nothing but heckle this comic for, if my memory serves me correctly, the past three to four years.
Probably the closest Nathan has gotten to a non-related boob in his life.
I mean, dude was asking for a pounding from the very moment he attempted to engage in a conversation with Jocelyn of all people. Given how low Nathan must rank on the high school food chain he should really try and take his proselytizing to someone less likely AND eager to wipe the linoleum spick and span with that moptop of his.
@Mole204: You know, I’m getting really tired of you saying Jos is no better than anyone she brushes up against. Especially when you’re going to use it to equate self-defense with sexual assault. If someone were to pull a gun on her, would you still shit on her for defending herself?
@Mole204 He literally assaulted her! She punched in self defense!
JOCELYN WINS! FLAWLESS VICTORY! BRUTALITY!
Jocelyn really should take up boxing or martial arts
Well that escalated quickly. And Jos will continue to never get any consequences for her actions.
They’re the same level of jerks, just on different good/evil sides. They were never going to get along, but I can’t disagree with Nathan in the first panel. Second panel, he shouldn’t have touched the human bear trap, but I find myself agreeing with his “Could you just _fix_ this?” intent?
On a slightly halloween note, at least Jos doesn’t have any piercings in her hand, but cyberpunk hadn’t advanced beyond the paperback and anime shelves back then.
He’s basically the teenage version of Otis Oracle from the early days of Bloom County lol
Okay, this is based on the sexual harassment case regarding perpetrator Clarence Thomas harassing Anita Hill, huh? Nathan deserved that punch to the face, but I have a bad feeling Jocelyn is going to be in deep shit considering this time period is at least two decades and a half before the Me Too movement.
Jocelyn used “Mega Punch”! It’s super effective! Nathan is knocked the heck out!
Glad Jocelyn ain’t taking shit from this little shit.