For some reason, I see Phyllis and Jocelyn actually building a friendly relationship one day in the aughts. Of course I also see that after Phyllis is no longer with Ronald. Don’t know how that will happen, but that’s something I see happening.
Hmm… I’ll be honest, this ending feels a bit rushed.
I had an idea for how Jocelyn could patch things up with her parents (at least with her mother), so they could understand where she’s coming from a bit better.
Maybe it may eventually happen, or maybe not.
Glad this particular arc is over, and Ron got punished in a way.
But I don’t quite feel like everyone has learned something.
—
Either way, hope everyone’s had a great holiday season. We shall see where else these stories go.
“My head is to full of goop to move.” I’d say that would be an accurate reference to Ron’s brain and wonder why he has been able to move at all up to now.
A very fun story arc! Good to see Ronald get the ol’ karmic justice, though I highly doubt he’ll have learned anything from this experience. And Aunt Vicky was a breath of fresh air in the otherwise horrid Stafford household; looking forward to seeing more of her.
@TheJayster49: To echo what everyone else has said: excellent constructive criticism. Very well-thought-out and well-written.
Okay, that was a great arc. And Phyllis has taken a small step in the right direction. It isn’t much, but it’s a start. I do believe Phyllis can be redeemed, but its gonna take a while.
Bad news: Ronald is still alive, and it looks like we will have to see him around.
Good news: I liked how this story came to and end, and Phyllis is more than decided to be more close to her daughter.
I have read some stories from the original timeline, and I would love to have Jocelyn in some “rebooted” versions of the storylines mentioned by @TheJayster49, but due to some characters’ personalities changed for the reboot, maybe we could have either old or new characters to fill as the respective antagonists, but as for the Katy storyline, she has Ashleigh (just remember when Brian blamed the former for set him up when he got caught as the school’s thief and she punched him in the face) and/or Melanie.
I also agree to see Phyllis’ character to be developed. I remember the “Nineteen-Eighty-Something” storyline which developed Joey’s childhood. Maybe if @jbwarner86 repeat the formula with hers and Vicky’s, we could see more of that.
@TheJayster49: Now my dumb jokes and pitiful attempts at meming are gonna have to follow all THAT and I’m just gonna come across like an idiot. JK, that’s a pretty well-thought-out constructive criticism. And that is a breath of fresh air next to the angry weirdoes we’ve had to put up with down here in the comments.
As for you, JB, I can’t think of anything to add to Jay’s piece, so I’ll just say hope you’re having some happy and safe holidays, and and that Ron may never regain his dignity.
First off, I hope y’all had a good holiday this year! Now, I would like to say that this is easily one of the best storylines you have written for this comic. Not just for reintroducing Vicky but also for fleshing out Jocelyn some more.
I will admit that one of the consistent criticisms I have had about the reboot is that I feel like Jocelyn does not have as much personality as she did in the original comic. The original showed her more involved with helping other people, like beating up Lindsay for humiliating Katy and getting Aaron to stand up to his bigoted father, which showed off more of her character. While the reboot delves deeper into her relationship with Allie and her bisexuality, they tend to be mostly sidelined in favor of focusing on her “FUCK YOU I DO WHAT I WANT” attitude and she rarely interacts with anybody outside her friends and family.
I am not trying to be one of those people who think Jocelyn needs to be “put in her place,” since I acknowledge that she has been put through a lot of shit in her life. What I am saying is that the emphasis you have been placing on her rebellious nature is starting to wear a little thin. What I would suggest is balancing said nature out by having Jocelyn interact with other characters more often and express more personal issues outside the ones she already has with her family and sexual preferences.
Take Bart Simpson for example; he is a selfish troublemaker, but the show consistently balances it out by showing that he has a vulnerable and empathetic side to him. So, in short, I think showing off a softer side of Jocelyn would be a positive change of pace, like what you did for this storyline.
My one criticism about this storyline, however, is that I think more could have done to deepen Phyllis’ character a bit. While the storyline was a MUCH-needed change of form of her, I thought Phyllis was too sidelined and not enough was done to make her finally realize how corrupt she and her husband are. Granted, she did try to stand up for Ronald for locking Jocelyn and Vicky out of the house but backs up in the end. I understand that you want to take it slow for now but having to listen to Ronald’s usual “holier than thou” bull just made parts of the storyline a chore to read and Phyllis doing virtually nothing makes her come off as a pushover if I am honest.
Anyway, in short, the storyline was great for reintroducing Vicky and showing a softer side of Jocelyn that I would like to see more often. All I wish for is that Phyllis had received more character development.
For some reason, I see Phyllis and Jocelyn actually building a friendly relationship one day in the aughts. Of course I also see that after Phyllis is no longer with Ronald. Don’t know how that will happen, but that’s something I see happening.
Hmm… I’ll be honest, this ending feels a bit rushed.
I had an idea for how Jocelyn could patch things up with her parents (at least with her mother), so they could understand where she’s coming from a bit better.
Maybe it may eventually happen, or maybe not.
Glad this particular arc is over, and Ron got punished in a way.
But I don’t quite feel like everyone has learned something.
—
Either way, hope everyone’s had a great holiday season. We shall see where else these stories go.
I happened upon this graphic. I wonder how it applies to Ronald.
God bless us, everyone…unless they don’t want His blessing, in which case, eh…whatever works for them.
“My head is to full of goop to move.” I’d say that would be an accurate reference to Ron’s brain and wonder why he has been able to move at all up to now.
A very fun story arc! Good to see Ronald get the ol’ karmic justice, though I highly doubt he’ll have learned anything from this experience. And Aunt Vicky was a breath of fresh air in the otherwise horrid Stafford household; looking forward to seeing more of her.
@TheJayster49: To echo what everyone else has said: excellent constructive criticism. Very well-thought-out and well-written.
Okay, that was a great arc. And Phyllis has taken a small step in the right direction. It isn’t much, but it’s a start. I do believe Phyllis can be redeemed, but its gonna take a while.
@TheJayster49 That’s the best criticism I’ve seen since the reboot started. You deserve a cookie!
Bad news: Ronald is still alive, and it looks like we will have to see him around.
Good news: I liked how this story came to and end, and Phyllis is more than decided to be more close to her daughter.
I have read some stories from the original timeline, and I would love to have Jocelyn in some “rebooted” versions of the storylines mentioned by @TheJayster49, but due to some characters’ personalities changed for the reboot, maybe we could have either old or new characters to fill as the respective antagonists, but as for the Katy storyline, she has Ashleigh (just remember when Brian blamed the former for set him up when he got caught as the school’s thief and she punched him in the face) and/or Melanie.
I also agree to see Phyllis’ character to be developed. I remember the “Nineteen-Eighty-Something” storyline which developed Joey’s childhood. Maybe if @jbwarner86 repeat the formula with hers and Vicky’s, we could see more of that.
@TheJayster49: Now my dumb jokes and pitiful attempts at meming are gonna have to follow all THAT and I’m just gonna come across like an idiot. JK, that’s a pretty well-thought-out constructive criticism. And that is a breath of fresh air next to the angry weirdoes we’ve had to put up with down here in the comments.
As for you, JB, I can’t think of anything to add to Jay’s piece, so I’ll just say hope you’re having some happy and safe holidays, and and that Ron may never regain his dignity.
@TheJayster49 That was very clear, concise, and very constructive criticism. Definitely more so than He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named.
First off, I hope y’all had a good holiday this year! Now, I would like to say that this is easily one of the best storylines you have written for this comic. Not just for reintroducing Vicky but also for fleshing out Jocelyn some more.
I will admit that one of the consistent criticisms I have had about the reboot is that I feel like Jocelyn does not have as much personality as she did in the original comic. The original showed her more involved with helping other people, like beating up Lindsay for humiliating Katy and getting Aaron to stand up to his bigoted father, which showed off more of her character. While the reboot delves deeper into her relationship with Allie and her bisexuality, they tend to be mostly sidelined in favor of focusing on her “FUCK YOU I DO WHAT I WANT” attitude and she rarely interacts with anybody outside her friends and family.
I am not trying to be one of those people who think Jocelyn needs to be “put in her place,” since I acknowledge that she has been put through a lot of shit in her life. What I am saying is that the emphasis you have been placing on her rebellious nature is starting to wear a little thin. What I would suggest is balancing said nature out by having Jocelyn interact with other characters more often and express more personal issues outside the ones she already has with her family and sexual preferences.
Take Bart Simpson for example; he is a selfish troublemaker, but the show consistently balances it out by showing that he has a vulnerable and empathetic side to him. So, in short, I think showing off a softer side of Jocelyn would be a positive change of pace, like what you did for this storyline.
My one criticism about this storyline, however, is that I think more could have done to deepen Phyllis’ character a bit. While the storyline was a MUCH-needed change of form of her, I thought Phyllis was too sidelined and not enough was done to make her finally realize how corrupt she and her husband are. Granted, she did try to stand up for Ronald for locking Jocelyn and Vicky out of the house but backs up in the end. I understand that you want to take it slow for now but having to listen to Ronald’s usual “holier than thou” bull just made parts of the storyline a chore to read and Phyllis doing virtually nothing makes her come off as a pushover if I am honest.
Anyway, in short, the storyline was great for reintroducing Vicky and showing a softer side of Jocelyn that I would like to see more often. All I wish for is that Phyllis had received more character development.